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This uses the same 100grn bullet but uses 8grns of powder and a small foam filler.

Powder (25grns) looks like Vihavouri.ĮS also produce a round that will not cycle the action- different folks like different things. Accuracy is adequate for it's intended mission out to 100m or so.īullet is filled with Tungsten carbide- so not cheep. Has cycled reliably in all the rifles I have tried it in- 1960's vintage M16, Current M4, HK 416 and ruger Mini 14.īullet (on the new stuff) weighs 100grns (old was 127grn) which is marginal on stability. Out of 16" barrels like our test HK 416's.it is often just supersonic (1180fps) but a few civi spec 16 barrels it stays just below the speed of sound. Subsonic is pushing it too much with a 40 grain bullet (most sub CF loads use a heavier than usual bullet for calibre). 22 hornet power levels safely and accurately. It is designed to be subsonic in a mil spec 14½" barrel- it is. 222.223, 22-250 can all fire reloads from. It works as advertised within a narrow window. 22lr sub?Īpart from anything else just what sort of a twist do you expect down the barrel of your. 223 will have a terrible arc and make hitting things a nightmare, just where are you seeing an advantage of a. 223 (lets forget BC for simplicity) and a 75g sub sonic. 22lr will have the same arc and energy as a 40g sub sonic. 22lr and will have little or no advantage at 100 yards over the. If it is sub sonic then it will be the same speed as your.

223 would certainly have that extra punch for vermin control with little noise. Trying to get something a little quieter for my 223/5.56 SBR. 22 subsonic is not much better than an air rifle, but a. Anyone have information on subsonic loads for 223/5.56 using H4895 or other powders with 65gr/69gr/75gr bullets for use suppressed I know H4895 has been the Military's main powder since WWII and heard that it works well with under charged loads and less than 1,000fps. My thoughts are based solely on noise nothing else and to me a. That got me thinking, no noise but plenty of hitting power at 100 yrds. 17hmr, unless I want something quite ie subsonics. The reason for the original question was based on the fact my. Source: Modern Reloading by Richard Lee, 1996 Ed. Only one load given "start" and "never exceed" figures are the same. I'd sell the LR as I rarely use it other than for braining cage trapped Foxes! I wouldn't even need to re-zero my scope for that.Ĥ5gr bullet over 11.5gr of IMR 4831 for predicted MV of 1085ft/sec with pressure at 10700 CUP and minimum COAL of 1.720". I'd love to work out some sub loads for my Hornet. If you're not doing it often £40 for powder is better than a complete. 223 loadings which were still WELL above subsonic velocities using a couple of different powders and bullet weights and even with modified super-light buffers and a carbine gas system nothing would cycle the action. A couple of years ago I did some experimentation with downloaded. 22lr.Īs for making the loads, all you'd need to lay out on is a tub of powder. Cycling the action isn't even close to being a possibility. Shot placement will be a little less critical on a Fox than it would be with a. All you have to do is zero with the subs and you don't have anything to think about other than what you would with the. 22lr without thinking about drop? He said 10" drop compared to his normal loads. I can see where that could be useful.Ĭan you shoot at 100 yards with a. Storage Also in Ammo: Rifle Ammo Ammo Cans Subsonic Ammo Handgun Ammo. 308 doing the same speed will give you around 450ft-lbs. You can buy Patriot Ordnance Factory (POF) 223 Remington online with. 22lr sub offers about 80ft-lbs at the muzzle if I remember right.